If so, how often? How far back do you go? What info do you care about?
I’m working on migrating workouts over to the new app but there are millions of them, and some horses have thousands of workouts. I’m assuming people don’t troll through thousands of old workouts, so if you do look at old workouts, what do you care about?
I’m thinking of potentially only keeping the last year’s worth of workouts for each horse. Is there a reason that would be problematic for people?
Recently, I only want to work horses that are already entered in a race, and their fitness is not A. Other horses at the track usually work too, because I have to go through the list anyway. I only disable workouts for horses with D or F energy, by deselecting the track.
For the racers, I look at their past 5-7 workouts and see what they were not doing (for example, if they didn’t breeze in a while, I do that).
I think we don’t need more than a year of past workouts. Maybe only when someone had been away for a long time, but it would be more useful to have a general overview of what the horse was doing… which would be useful anyway: how many days it was working at the track, how many days it was resting at the farm, or just doing nothing/in transit/injured?
I think I remember there was some more workout or performance-related info, when the new app was launched… like some statistics?
Or maybe there could be a trainer’s comment every three months (4 times per year), as a summary of each three months? Not sure how could that be coded… but a horse could have a “grade” or something if it was mostly A fitness, or improved its speed when breezing?
I look at them every so often, but search for specific words in the workouts to indicate the following:
Does the jockey know the horse?
if yes, what is it’s preferred running style?
if yes, what does the horse think of the current / past equipment?
Sometimes I also look at if the horse and jockey get along, but I feel like usually they’ll grow on each other so I don’t do this often.
So basically, I only look at really old workouts when buying a new horse and even then it’s glazing over them to see if the horse is already working with the right running style/equipment combination or if I need to rotate that around. Personally, I think just last year’s records in the new app is enough!
P.S. Of course I look when the jockey said “I know X like the back of my hand…” and if they figured out its running style after that, so I can choose the jockey’s instructions. Maybe this could be highlighted somehow? Or we could keep only these, from workouts older than a year or so?
It’s easy to only pick the past workouts where the jockey says they know the horse well. But then what do you pick after that? Just one workout from that jockey for each stat they could talk about? (That could be every flavour of equipment, running style, etc.)
I’m wondering if I can do a stats view for the horse, with info/confidence, maybe? Something like
Column 1
Column 2
Column 3
Column 4
Stat
Value
Confidence
Source
Equipment
Blinkers (Love)
Low
Bob Smith (workout, 2025-01-01)
Jockey Knowledge
High
Jane Doe (workout, 2026-01-01)
Running Style
Frontrunner
High
Jane Doe (workout, 2026-01-10)
etc…
Obviously formatted better, and with filters. (And it would pick the best confidence value for each stat, so if 10 jockeys worked the horse with blinkers it only picks the jockey that knows the horse best.) But then you could just look at the equipment list if you care about that, or the running style if you care about that, or if you want to know when your first choice jockey knows the horse really well and you want to get them experience with their second choice jockey you focus on that.
I think all the other workout stuff is temporary, e.g. this horse is well rested, or this horse bolted, etc.
I personally do like how workouts are formatted now, with a jockey giving a tidbit of the days workout where the trustworthiness depends on how well jockey and horse know each other - it adds a layer of realism into the game.
I usually take a quick peek at recent workouts as well when I’m doubting between resting and racing a horse, usually the feedback from workouts is pretty clear on that!
I think most information is retained if 6-12 months of workouts are migrated as a lot of info is repeated every once in a while. Most of us have some sort of note keeping anyway, which could function as a backup for the information that older than that.
I don’t tend to look at workouts very much, except to check for injuries. I find they tend to be very unhelpful as you sometimes end up with completely different results on consecutive days, see the following example (compare 10/25 & 10/27 also 10/30 & 10/31):-
I don’t think we even need to keep as much as 12 months workouts. How a horse worked out 6 months ago won’t really have any bearing on how they’re going to workout today. Certainly keep no more than 6 months and, in my opinion, even three months should be more than enough.
Oh and to actually answer the question I’m never looking at comments that are more than a few months old. Starfish is probably correct that even comments older than 3 months are likely to be irrelevant.
I only look at workouts of young or new horses to get the equipment and jockey right.
Only other time I look if a horse is performing badly at the track and decide maybe to rest or change a piece of equipment
I’m apparently the odd ball out, haha. I glance at all workouts prior to entering, because I’ve noticed faster times typically suggest a horse being more ready to run well. I absolutely look for equipment/running style comments, too. I’ll also verify they’ve had at least a couple weeks of workouts and I didn’t just…miss assigning them a schedule after shipping to the track. But I probably only look back a max of 3 months.
To start, would it help to wipe all workout records for non-racehorses? I.e. we don’t need workout records for broodmares, stallions, and retired horses.