Cloning

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Their First Horse

(There are also 2 clones in Italy.)

I’m interested in seeing how

long these clones live…didn’t Dolly the Sheep die when she was about 3? Translating that

into horse years, these clones would likely only live until 8 or 10, I would guess.

Yeah I read that they die so

early because some gene (I forget what it was called) ages and when they make a clone that

clone is born with that gene already being aged…in fact after the birth of the clone it

seems to accelerate in them.

It’ll be interesting to see how all the horse registries

around the world handle the ability to make clones if this is really successful and the foal

lives a normal lifespan. I doubt they really want ppl cloning champions (once in a lifetime

type horses) and than reaping all the benefits over and over. Although they did say that that

cloned foal might not be able to do the same things that the champion original could…but

it would pass on the same genes that the original horse could. But for the thoroughbred

industry I think they’d be happy enough with the breeding aspect of it. Imgaine having

several Storm Cat’s around the world? Or Danzig’s etc. Not sure if that would be a good

thing. I doubt the Jockey Club would allow clones to be registered tho.

It sounds like the main

thing people want cloning for is to be able to breed from geldings. So you’d be able to

breed to Funny Cide’s clone, since you can’t breed to him.

I highly doubt the JC would

ever go for it, though, since they won’t even go for AI.

Man if i could clone my

holsteiner/TB mare I had that died when she was only 4 that would be awesome. Prolly outta

my price range though…lol. Only had her for a month before she died of a ruptured stomach.

:frowning: Long story…

I personally am hoping to

see /every/ breed society refuse to register clones, period.

One, at the moment, clone

degredation is a real problem. I don’t consider it good from a welfare viewpoint to bring

animals that are going to die early into the world.

Two, many breeds /already/ have a

problem with inbreeding and too much linebreeding. Cloning three or four top studs, plus the

use of AI…is going to make these problems worse.

Thankfully, cloning TBs is already

‘illegal’ under the ‘no artificial reproduction’ rules that every major jockey club has.

I agree that producing

animals that you know will die before age 10 is unethical.

However, I wouldn’t mind the

idea of using genetic material to artificially produce babies. For instance, I take skin

cells from Java (obiously before she died :wink:), somehow combine that with sperm/skin cells

from a stud, and implant the embryo into a host mare and get a baby. Who knows if that’ll

ever be possible, but that would rock. :slight_smile: (Assuming, of course, that the baby were fully

normal and didn’t have the short lifespan problem)

I dunno that you could breed

like that without going through the effort/time/expense of making a full Java clone… I

suppose it’s theoretically possible but I"m not sure if we can make normal cells develop

into egg/sperm cells at the moment.

But yeah, it has some nice possibilities to it, but I

agree I don’t see it being very useful/happy for breeding purposes in general. I know most

of what I’ve heard is people wanting to clone like beef cattle or whatever. Again, probably

not the best idea :wink:.

Though how is the JC going to know you haven’t substituted a clone

for a registered horse? Blood typing won’t work and it’s obviously possible to fake

tatoos. I don’t know if clone markings would always match up 100% but it’d be

tough…

Ahh, the joys of dealing with technology :slight_smile:

Well, yeah, I know it’s not

possible now, but that’s the only extension of it that would be cool (since cloning, even if

you can get rid of the early lifespan, is icky…cool in theory, strange in reality).